When Vivian was confused her mind tended to be very literal, it became clinical and lost the charming 40's speak she normally used. This was one of those times.

"How can you make out? Out is a state of location or being that implies not in. Making is to create, how can you create not in?"

Bless him, Ilya did try to explain, and the melting trick would have been one Viv would love to see, though she could do it better.

"Show me?" She gestured between them, now wanting to know what this important thing was that she had not prepared herself with knowledge before hand.